Legislature(1995 - 1996)

01/12/1996 01:36 PM House FIN

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                     HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                        January 12, 1996                                       
                            1:36 P.M.                                          
                                                                               
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  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Mark Hanley  called  the House  Finance  Committee                 
  meeting to order at 1:36 p.m.                                                
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley               Representative Martin                          
  Co-Chair Foster               Representative Mulder                          
  Representative Brown          Representative Navarre                         
  Representative Grussendorf    Representative Parnell                         
  Representative Kelly                                                         
  Representative Kohring                                                       
                                                                               
  Representatives  Mulder and Therriault  were absent from the                 
  meeting.                                                                     
                                                                               
  ALSO PRESENT                                                                 
                                                                               
  Nancy Slagle, Director, Division of Budget Review, Office of                 
  the  Management  and Budget,  Office  of the  Governor; Mark                 
  Boyer,  Commissioner,  Department  of Administration;  Tamar                 
  diFranco, Special Assistant, Department of Revenue.                          
                                                                               
  SUMMARY                                                                      
                                                                               
       GOVERNOR'S BUDGET OVERVIEW:                                             
                                                                               
       ANNALEE MCCONNEL,  DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT  AND                 
       BUDGET, OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR                                          
                                                                               
  ANNALEE MCCONNEL, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                 
  OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR noted that Governor Knowles presented                 
  the Legislature  with the first  year of a  multi-year plan,                 
  designed to close the budget gap  in 6 years.  She  asserted                 
  that some  issues cannot not be  resolved in one year.   She                 
  identified the fastest  growing areas of the budget:   AFDC,                 
  Welfare,  Medicaid  and  the   Department  of  Corrections's                 
  budget.   She emphasized that the Administration is using an                 
  interdepartmental  approach  to bring  the  growth of  these                 
  programs under control.   She noted that  the Administration                 
  is  developing  a  long range  plan  for  the  Department of                 
  Corrections.                                                                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Ms. McConnell pointed out that the Administration is working                 
  to streamline  programs in  order to  reduce the  effort and                 
  cost  of  administration and  increase  the level  of direct                 
  services.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell observed that technological improvements often                 
  cannot be implemented in a single year.                                      
                                                                               
  Ms.  McConnell  addressed  the  issue  of budget  reductions                 
  versus increased taxes.  She  pointed out that approximately                 
  $40.0 million dollars in agency  cuts were combined with the                 
  $56.0  million dollar  capitalization of  the Mental  Health                 
  Trust  in the FY 96 budget.   She maintained that there were                 
  no major fee increases  or tax proposals included in  the FY                 
  96 budget.  She maintained  that inflation has been absorbed                 
  into the budget in  previous years.  She noted that the fuel                 
  tax has  not been raised since  1961.  The last  alcohol tax                 
  increase  was in 1983.  She asserted that the Administration                 
  is not starting with user fees  and taxes without looking at                 
  the necessity to focus on cuts.  She acknowledged efforts of                 
  past legislatures  and governors  to control  the growth  of                 
  state spending.                                                              
                                                                               
  Ms.  McConnell  provided  members  with  a  chart  detailing                 
  expenditures of  state funding  (Attachment 1).   She  noted                 
  that the total  $2.3 million  dollar state operating  budget                 
  can be broken down as follows:                                               
                                                                               
       *    State  Services  &  Operations  -  $1,077  million                 
            dollars;                                                           
       *    Grants/Formula  Programs  for  Individuals -  $349                 
            million dollars;                                                   
       *    Grants/Formula  Programs  to  Non-Profits  -  $128                 
            million dollars; and                                               
       *    Local Assistance:   Schools & Local Governments  -                 
            $802 million dollars.                                              
                                                                               
  Ms.  McConnell stressed  that the  Administration looked  at                 
  proposals and ideas  for reducing  costs of services  across                 
  the  State and the  impacts of each action.   She noted that                 
  many proposals  will take more  than one year  to implement.                 
  She emphasized the need to look at multi-year proposals.                     
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell  restated that  the Administration  emphasized                 
  interdepartmental solutions to problems.  She pointed to the                 
  success of  the interdepartmental approach  taken in regards                 
  to criminal justice issues.                                                  
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell referred to recommendations  of the Long Range                 
  Financial Planning Commission  (LRFPC).  She noted  that the                 
  Governor outlined his recommendations in regards to the Long                 
  Range Financial Planning  Commission's plan in his  State of                 
                                                                               
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  the State  address  on  January 11,  1996.    Ms.  McConnell                 
  assured members that no one area is focused for or protected                 
  from the impact of reductions.                                               
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell noted  that there  are services that  citizens                 
  are willing to  pay for in the form of  program of receipts.                 
  She noted that services delivered and paid for through state                 
  government  do not  result  in a  reduction  in total  state                 
  spending.  She noted that program  receipts that are tied on                 
  a  one  to one  basis  to  the service  delivered  have been                 
  identified  in   the  budget  plan   as  designated  program                 
  receipts.    She  observed  that  funding  for  occupational                 
  licensing is  based on  money collected  from the  licensing                 
  process.  She noted  that some program receipts are  a blend                 
  of state  support and user fees  such as the  state park and                 
  recreation  system.      She  suggested   that   users   can                 
  appropriately pay for services provided by state programs.                   
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell provided  members with a handout:   Comparison                 
  of  the Budget Gap between  FY 96 and  FY 97 (Attachment 2).                 
  She  reviewed  Attachment  2.    She  noted that  total  oil                 
  revenues are projected  to decline by $43.7  million dollars                 
  in FY 97.   She noted that  the State received an  Executive                 
  Life settlement of $72.5 million dollars in FY 96 which will                 
  not be received in FY 97.  She noted that there will also be                 
  a $20 million dollar reduction in  dividends from AHFC.  She                 
  noted  that there will be $51.8 million dollars in increases                 
  over FY  96 from  expenditure reductions,  and a shift  from                 
  state  support  to user  support.    She observed  that  the                 
  Administration's  budget  includes   an  increase  of  $80.0                 
  million  dollars  in  increased fuel,  tobacco  and  alcohol                 
  taxes.                                                                       
  Co-Chair  Hanley  noted  that   the  Department  of  Revenue                 
  underestimated  FY  95  corporate  income  tax  revenues  by                 
  approximately $194 million dollars.                                          
                                                                               
  TAMAR  DIFRANCO,  SPECIAL ASSISTANT,  DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE                 
  testified  that  the FY  96  forecast reflects  increases in                 
  corporate  income  taxes  as  compared   to  the  spring  95                 
  forecast.  She  stated that corporate receipts  are expected                 
  to be $185 million dollars in FY 96 and $179 million dollars                 
  in FY 97.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell provided members with  a cut sheet summarizing                 
  the  Governor's  FY  96/97 budget  plan  from  the Executive                 
  Budget Book (Attachment 3).   She noted that the  plan shows                 
  total  funds  as  well  as  general  funds.    She  reviewed                 
  attachment 3.  She noted  that the spreadsheet also  depicts                 
  total general funds without designated program receipts.                     
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin maintained that  the public  needs to                 
  see  the  "true  cost of  government,  no  matter where  the                 
                                                                               
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  resource  is  coming from."    He referred  to  shared taxes                 
  passed directly to municipalities.  Ms. McConnell noted that                 
  information regarding shared taxes  are located in footnotes                 
  to the  spreadsheet.   She  observed that  shared taxes  are                 
  indicated  for accounting  purposes.    She emphasized  that                 
  shared  taxes are  passed on  to municipalities  and do  not                 
  effect the state's spending level.                                           
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin referred  to  University of  Alaska's                 
  corporate receipts of  $29 million  dollars.  He  questioned                 
  how  these  will  be  accounted  for  in the  budget.    Ms.                 
  McConnell  responded that  the  total  spectrum of  spending                 
  sources will be demonstrated and compared to FY 96.                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley asked  if the  FY 97 budget  for the  Alaska                 
  Court System is  shown at  the FY 96  level.  Ms.  McConnell                 
  replied that the Administration included  an increased FY 97                 
  budget request for the Alaska Court  System in the form that                 
  it  was  received.     The  spreadsheet  assumes   that  the                 
  Legislature will not  approve additional funding.   Co-Chair                 
  Hanley pointed out  that there  is an inconsistency  between                 
  the  legislation and  the Executive Budget  Book.   He noted                 
  that the legislation  contains an  increase of $2.3  million                 
  dollars above the spending plan.                                             
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown   asked  the  percentage   of  federal                 
  contribution in  the $3.0  billion dollars  listed as  other                 
  funds.    Co-Chair  Hanley  observed  that  the  Legislative                 
  Finance Division is working to  identify the source of other                 
  funds.  He  noted that there  is an increase in  total other                 
  funds for FY  97.  Ms.  McConnell noted that the  Governor's                 
  Budget Summary for Fiscal Year  1997 contains information on                 
  page  13  regarding  other  funds.   Ms.  McConnell  assured                 
  members that the Administration will  continue to attempt to                 
  better identify other funds.                                                 
                                                                               
  In  response  to a  question  by Representative  Martin, Ms.                 
  McConnell explained  that increased personnel costs,  due to                 
  negotiated  raises,  were  incorporated  into  the  personal                 
  services line in  each department.   She explained that  the                 
  Administration wished to  understand the increased  cost for                 
  personnel in order to accurately decide what cuts are needed                 
  in program services and streamlining to achieve their budget                 
  goals.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Ms.  McConnell  noted that  the  proposed increase  for non-                 
  represented employees is structure in the same manner as for                 
  the negotiated contracts.   She  stated that contracts  were                 
  negotiated at  half of  the cost-of-living  increase with  a                 
  limit of 1.5 percent.                                                        
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 96-2, Side 2)                                              
                                                                               
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  In  response  to a  question  by Representative  Martin, Ms.                 
  McConnell explained  that the University of  Alaska received                 
  an increase for labor contracts.  She further explained that                 
  after   personnel  increases   were   factored  the   entire                 
  University of Alaska budget was subjected to revised funding                 
  levels based on policy decisions.                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley  observed  that personnel  increases due  to                 
  contracts  were   included  in  all  agencies.     Personnel                 
  increases  were  not  added into  the  Legislature  or Court                 
  System budgets.   Ms.  McConnell noted  that contracts  were                 
  funded with  the exception  of the  Public Safety  Employees                 
  Association  and  Correspondence  Schools.    Ms.  McConnell                 
  stressed that  there will  not be  separate legislation  for                 
  personnel  increases for contacts  that were submitted prior                 
  to  the October deadline.  Legislation  may be submitted for                 
  contracts received by Office of  Management and Budget after                 
  that date.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley asked if the Administration had analyzed the                 
  cost of merit increases in FY 97.  Ms. McConnell stated that                 
  they did not  perform a FY  97 analysis of merit  increases.                 
  She  emphasized  that  Position  Authorization  and  Control                 
  System (PAC) runs adjust  for the person who is  actually in                 
  the job.   Ms. McConnell clarified that  non-union personnel                 
  increases  are  estimated at  $700.0  thousand general  fund                 
  dollars.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell  provided  members with  a  handout  detailing                 
  items transferred from  the Capital Budget to  the Operating                 
  Budget   (Attachment   4).      She   emphasized   that  the                 
  Administration's review of  capital appropriations  attempts                 
  to determine if  appropriations should be  considered annual                 
  items which belong in the operating budget.  Co-Chair Hanley                 
  assured Ms. McConnell  that the Legislature would  work with                 
  the   Administration  to  identify   items  that  should  be                 
  transferred to the operating budget.                                         
                                                                               
  Representative Parnell  asked if  all the  maintenance items                 
  have been  brought into the operating budget.  Ms. McConnell                 
  replied that regular  maintenance items were transferred  to                 
  the  operating  budget.   Co-Chair  Hanley suggested  that a                 
  comparison of  capital  appropriations  over  several  years                 
  would be beneficial.                                                         
                                                                               
  Ms.  McConnell noted  that  there has  not  been a  separate                 
  expenditure for gravel  in the Department  of Transportation                 
  and  Public  Facilities.    Co-Chair Hanley  suggested  that                 
  perhaps there should be  a one time capital expenditure  for                 
  this year to  fund requirements  from past years  and an  on                 
  going expenditure for future years.                                          
                                                                               
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  Representative  Parnell asked if  vehicles were  included in                 
  the   estimates  for   Trooper   replacement  equipment   in                 
  Attachment 4.   Ms. McConnell stated that  vehicles were not                 
  included.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Ms.  McConnell  emphasized the  need  to "get  a  handle" on                 
  ongoing maintenance  and  regular  renewal  and  replacement                 
  costs.  She  stressed that it is not going to do any good to                 
  add new projects if maintenance needs  are not covered.  She                 
  accentuated  that  a plan  needs  to  exist to  provide  for                 
  regular  renewal,  replacement  and routine  maintenance  in                 
  agency budgets.                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre observed that,  in past years,  items                 
  have sometimes been shifted  to the capital budget  to lower                 
  agency's  operating budget.    He spoke  in  support of  the                 
  Administration's  approach.    Co-Chair Hanley  agreed  that                 
  necessary adjustments should be made in the FY 96 and  FY 97                 
  budgets so that they can be compared appropriately.                          
                                                                               
  Representative  Grussendorf  questioned  why   the  Renter's                 
  Rebate Program  was  maintained while  the Senior  Citizen's                 
  Property  Tax Exemption  was  discontinued.   Ms.  McConnell                 
  noted  that  local  municipalities  can  maintain  a  senior                 
  citizen's property tax exemption.  She emphasized that local                 
  government's would not offer a renter's rebate.                              
                                                                               
  Representative Martin noted  the need to control  the growth                 
  of formula programs.  He asked if the Administration's FY 97                 
  goal  of  $10  million  dollars  below  FY  96,  for formula                 
  programs, is realistic.  Ms. McConnell provided members with                 
  spreadsheets detailing  formula programs in total  funds and                 
  general funds (Attachments 5  & 6).  She stressed  the shift                 
  away from  an emphasis on  processing welfare claims  and an                 
  increased  stress on job training and placement effort.  She                 
  noted that the demand in education  is estimated at a slight                 
  increase.    Non-general  fund  support  to  the  foundation                 
  formula will be increased through the Public School Fund.                    
                                                                               
  Ms.  McConnell  stressed that  in  order to  make reductions                 
  there must be some statutory changes.   She noted that $13.0                 
  million   dollars  of   new  revenues   identified   by  the                 
  Administration require statutory changes.                                    
                                                                               
  In  response  to  a question  by  Representative  Brown, Ms.                 
  McConnell observed  that Alaska  has the  highest population                 
  growth rate of residents over 65 years of age in the nation.                 
  She observed  that the Longevity Bonus Program  will grow by                 
  $350.0 thousand dollars  if there are no  statutory changes.                 
  She stated  that  the Administration's  budget assumes  that                 
  Medicaid costs will  be held  steady by an  increase in  job                 
                                                                               
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  training  and   federal  changes  to  Alaska's  growth  rate                 
  allowance in Congress.                                                       
                                                                               
  Ms.   McConnell  observed   that   the  Front   Section  was                 
  reorganized to aggregate programs.   Departments were placed                 
  into  alphabetical   order.      She   observed   that   the                 
  Administration   has   recommended  some   changes   in  the                 
  appropriation structure.   She maintained that the splitting                 
  of programs between  Budget Request  Units has hampered  the                 
  Administration's   ability   to   efficiently   manage   and                 
  streamline programs.   She acknowledged  that public  policy                 
  decisions need to be made in regards to particular services.                 
  She maintained  that efforts  to  aggressively downsize  and                 
  control  supplemental  requests  will  be aided  by  greater                 
  flexibility in management.                                                   
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell noted that performance measures were included                  
  for each department.                                                         
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell provided members with a schedule of debt                       
  service (Attachment 7) and a spreadsheet of loan programs                    
  cash flow analysis (Attachment 8).                                           
                                                                               
  Representative Parnell asked if the Governor has a fiscal                    
  plan  to close the fiscal gap and balance the budget in six                  
  years.                                                                       
  Ms. McConnell replied that the Administration is working on                  
  a modification of the Long Range Financial Planning                          
  Commission's (LRFPC) recommendations with some adjustments.                  
  She noted that an initial plan has been laid with concerns                   
  and approvals of different elements of the plan.  She                        
  observed that the Governor felt it was appropriate and                       
  necessary to establish a time frame beyond the year 2000.                    
                                                                               
  Representative Parnell questioned the format the Governor's                  
  fiscal plan would take.                                                      
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell noted that the Governor outlined the direction                 
  that he wants to take and the values he will use in                          
  evaluating changes to suggestions that have been made.                       
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley asked if the Legislature would see a                         
  spreadsheet from the Governor outlining his six year plan.                   
  He noted that the Governor expressed a preference for an                     
  income tax over capping the dividend.  He questioned if the                  
  Governor would wait to see what direction the Legislature                    
  takes.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell stressed that the Administration will be                       
  working to assure the numbers add up in order to balance the                 
  budget in no more than six years.  She stressed that "we                     
  sort of have to work both ends toward the middle, we've got                  
                                                                               
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  a target of six years in our minds and some framework for                    
  how those steps might fit."  She expressed the hope that the                 
  administration and the legislature will be able to work                      
  together to fashion something that will provide a reliable,                  
  secure and realistic approach to closing the budget gap.                     
                                                                               
  Representative Parnell stated that he presumed budget                        
  deliberations this year would be part of the six year plan.                  
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell expressed the desire to set direction early in                 
  the session.  She noted that Speaker Phillips has suggested                  
  holding hearings in the first couple weeks of the                            
  legislative session on the plan.                                             
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 96-3, Side 1)                                              
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell spoke in support of an overall plan developed                  
  jointly by the Legislature and the Governor.                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley suggested that the Legislature is going to                   
  have to propose the starting point for deliberations.  He                    
  summarized that the Governor is not going to come out with a                 
  six year plan.  He reiterated that the Governor wants to                     
  work jointly with the Legislature.                                           
                                                                               
  Representative Parnell noted that the Governor, in his State                 
  of the State Address, took a significant portion of what the                 
  LRFPC adopted.  He noted that the Governor disagreed with                    
  capping the permanent fund dividend and questioned if the                    
  Governor agreed with other points in the first three years                   
  of the plan.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell replied that the Governor has not addressed                    
  all the proposals in the second and third years of the plan.                 
  She noted that the Administration has not addressed the                      
  Commission's recommendation for doubling of the motor                        
  vehicle registration fees or the specific numbers that were                  
  recommended for various resource industry tax increases.                     
  She spoke in support of dialogue between the Administration                  
  and the Governor with the recommendations of the Long Range                  
  Financial Planning Commission.                                               
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley reiterated his desire to have the Governor                   
  take a position in regards to aspects of the Long Range                      
  Financial Plan.                                                              
                                                                               
  Ms. McConnell asserted that the Governor has specifically                    
  addressed all of the elements that were in the Commission's                  
  first year recommendations.  She maintained that the items                   
  that he agrees with are in the budget.  She stressed that                    
  levels for proposed taxes on alcohol, tobacco and motor                      
  fuels were addressed.  She reiterated that the Governor has                  
                                                                               
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  stated that he does not agree with the recommendation to                     
  reduce the permanent fund dividend at this time.  She added                  
  that the Governor thinks that other tools should be brought                  
  into place prior to a cap on dividends.  She pointed out                     
  that if a particular tool is not implemented in the first                    
  year its equivalent dollar amount in savings must be found                   
  through a different tool.                                                    
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre stressed the need for leadership.  He                 
  suggested a budget summit which would allow members of the                   
  administration, members of the Senate and the House to reach                 
  a consensus.  He maintained that it is vitally important                     
  that something be done this year.                                            
                                                                               
  Representative Martin summarized that the Administration's                   
  position is that a solution cannot be found in one year.  He                 
  questioned if the Governor supports a ballot question                        
  concerning capping permanent fund dividends.  He agreed that                 
  the State's fiscal solutions will not be found in one year.                  
  He asked that the Governor clarify his position in regards                   
  to the Permanent Fund.                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative Brown expressed support for the placement of                  
  a six year plan on the ballot in 1996.  She emphasized the                   
  need to resolve issues regarding the Constitutional Budget                   
  Reserve.  She anticipated that it will be difficult to reach                 
  agreement on the first year recommendations of the                           
  Commission.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Representative Brown referred to the fiscal plan proposed by                 
  Dave Rose.  She expressed support for the plan to insulate                   
  the principle of the Permanent Fund.  She maintained that                    
  significant solutions are needed for a large problem.                        
                                                                               
  Representative Navarre observed that the Long Range                          
  Financial Planning Commission's recommendations were based                   
  on hard work by intelligent Alaskans who are committed to                    
  obtaining a solution.  He noted that proposals regarding                     
  permanent fund dividends are politically difficult.  He                      
  urged that debate go beyond the political spectrum and into                  
  a policy spectrum to reach consensus among the leadership of                 
  the State.  He cautioned that a lack of action will                          
  accelerate the problem.  He asserted that the State's                        
  current level of expenditure is far below that of 10 years                   
  ago when adjusted for inflation.  He maintained that                         
  significant action has been taken to reduce the State's                      
  budget by past legislature's and Governors.                                  
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley asked when the supplemental request would be                 
  available.  Ms. McConnell replied that they hoped to have it                 
  prepared prior to the 30 day deadline.  Co-Chair Hanley                      
  asked when the capital budget request would be prepared.                     
                                                                               
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  Ms. McConnell could not provide a specific date.  She stated                 
  that the Administration is working on the out year portion                   
  of the plan.                                                                 
  Co-Chair Hanley asked for additional information regarding                   
  the foundation formula.  He asked if there will be a carry                   
  forward as far as the estimates for last fall.  He                           
  acknowledged that it is fairly flat for this year.                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley asked Ms. McConnell to provide him with                      
  lapsed balances of the school debt program.                                  
                                                                               
  Representative Martin referred to the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill                 
  Settlement (EVOSS).   He observed that the allocation has                    
  been increased.  He suggested that these funds should be                     
  considered in the total budget.  He observed that these                      
  funds will end in six years.  He questioned if the state                     
  will be expected to assume the cost of programs now funded                   
  from the EVOSS funds.                                                        
                                                                               
  Representative Kelly noted that Alaska Rural Development                     
  Assistance grants (ARDORs) have been moved into the budget                   
  of the Alaska Industrial Development and Export Authority                    
  (AIDEA).  Ms. McConnell emphasized that ARDORs are an                        
  appropriate use of AIDEA resources.  She noted that the                      
  Administration is working with AIDEA to develop a more                       
  aggressive and integrated effort in rural Alaska.                            
                                                                               
  In response to a question by Representative Kelly, Co-Chair                  
  Hanley observed that part of the education foundation                        
  formula is being funded by interest from the Public School                   
  Fund.  Ms. McConnell pointed out that other funds have been                  
  included in the foundation formula.  She emphasized that it                  
  is not a change in funding source.  Co-Chair Hanley                          
  expressed concern that an increased one time appropriation                   
  will result in a larger general fund contribution in FY 98.                  
  Ms. McConnell stressed that the Administration is working to                 
  prevent that scenario.                                                       
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting adjourned at 3:31 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
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